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Welcome Paddock at 19:36 PM, 28 Jan 2011 via web

hey :) Alex at 19:36 PM, 28 Jan 2011 via web

How about now? Welcome. Paddock at 19:37 PM, 28 Jan 2011 via web

hey :) Alex at 19:37 PM, 28 Jan 2011 via web

is it working? Alex at 19:37 PM, 28 Jan 2011 via web

Hey :) Taylor at 18:33 PM, 30 Jan 2011 via web

Hey! Taylor at 18:33 PM, 30 Jan 2011 via web

Hello ? Brandon at 18:14 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Moo Drew at 18:14 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Hi MichaelC at 18:15 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Hola Jessica at 18:15 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Hi MichaelC at 18:15 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Hello Luke at 18:15 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

hey Rohan at 18:15 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Hello Luke at 18:15 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

hi Amanda at 18:15 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Hola JUSTIN at 18:15 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Hello Luke at 18:15 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

hey Rohan at 18:15 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Working? Mr. Paddock at 18:15 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Hi! Kinnedy at 18:15 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

;alskd;ljk JakeR at 18:15 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Hi again. Taylor at 18:15 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Hey Guys !!!!!! jk lol Michael M. at 18:15 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Bonjour DJ at 18:15 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Here Brady at 18:15 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

What do you think about Michael's comment? Mr. Paddock at 18:20 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

I agree with Jessica's comment. JUSTIN at 18:22 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

I agree with Jessica's comment JUSTIN at 18:23 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

I agreed w/ Michael for the most part Drew at 18:23 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Michaels comment about the extreme ends of society was a good way to put the world state and the reservation into perspective DJ at 18:23 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

There would be a lot of influence! I'm with Amanda. Brandon at 18:24 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Same as my comment last week, tech and cultural progression based on limitations. No knowledge or sight of limitations or need to overcome Brady at 18:26 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

them and there is no advancement Brady at 18:26 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

the question of why we even need the reservation is a good one Rohan at 18:26 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Without individualism it wouldn't progress. When you have people that think the same way, there is nothing new or creative that's done. Brandon at 18:27 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Almost started singing that high school musical song thru this computer but i thought it would be off track Drew at 18:27 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

"soma" is there addictive substance equivalent! Brandon at 18:28 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

ignorance is bliss in the world-state Brady at 18:29 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Linda became an alcoholic right? She had to replace the soma with whatever alcohol Pope gave her Drew at 18:29 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Without new things created or creative thoughts innovation dosnt happen, and no progression happens. JUSTIN at 18:30 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

without marriage? There would be ciaos! Brandon at 18:30 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Even in a perfect society, people need a substance to take in order to forget their anger or sadness or whatever "abnormal" feeling that the DJ at 18:31 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

I don't believe that we will ever attempt to remove marriage, its too important. Even tho it is less so than compared to earlier its still i Drew at 18:32 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Morality is declining JUSTIN at 18:32 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Amanda's so right! With each generation we honestly loose morals...sad but kinda true :( Brandon at 18:32 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

i agree with amanda about the moral values degressing Rohan at 18:32 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Amanda's so right! With each generation we honestly loose morals...sad but kinda true :( Brandon at 18:32 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

I don't believe that we will ever attempt to remove marriage, its too important. Even tho it is less so than compared to earlier its still Drew at 18:32 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

A pregnancy WHAT!? Brady at 18:32 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

important Drew at 18:32 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

I agree with Amanda, alot of culture that was seem as taboo, is slowly becoming very common and less taboo Kinnedy at 18:33 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

I think that we will always be able to have kids, its sad to think that the "family" may become extinct JUSTIN at 18:33 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Pregnancy pacts?? Why would anyone think that a teenage pregnancy pact is a good idea? Drew at 18:33 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Not all progression and "advancement" is good Brady at 18:34 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Um, yes...maybe... Response to what Michael said. I read an article about how birth rates are declining and that more couples are deciding n Brandon at 18:34 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

...not to have children but to adopt instead. Brandon at 18:34 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Things that were once absurd and looked down upon by society is now the norm DJ at 18:34 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

I think that having childrern will always be a option Kinnedy at 18:35 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

If people stop having kids the world population will die out. JUSTIN at 18:35 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

jake and luke have good points Rohan at 18:36 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Luke is right...a lot of people get "stuck-up" on the importance of marriage and its all they look forward to. Brandon at 18:36 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Yes it will Justin DJ at 18:36 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Amanda is right, priority DJ at 18:37 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

teenage depression - having a child is the end of your world because of the huge new responsibility Brady at 18:37 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

We are really young...believe it or not! Brandon at 18:37 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

there weren't actual relationships in the book, and you were discouraged from staying with somebody, in the World-State, nobody is important Brady at 18:38 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Makes you wonder what we believe is taboo now and wrong will be common and will look back and laugh at us for thinking these things Drew at 18:38 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

i think the relationships in bnw are solely based on looks Rohan at 18:38 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Amanda has good points, Micheal asked a good question. Kinnedy at 18:39 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Everybody belonged to everyone else in the world state, and it was abnormal to be stuck on one person DJ at 18:39 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Michael makes a good point. JUSTIN at 18:40 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Very good point about the responsibility of children taking away productivity Brady at 18:40 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

I agree with Rohan...but even in today's society, we do take looks importantly...vain but true! Brandon at 18:41 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Lenina was curious about Bernard because of his height, she thought that it was cute, like she wanted to pet him or something Drew at 18:42 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

I'm with Amanda, John was a lot stronger in his believes in my opinion. Brandon at 18:42 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

John had a lot of morals and was his own person. DJ at 18:42 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

John had the advantage of his upbringing, Bernard has been put down about his after being indoctrinated. I think that Bernard was disadvanta Brady at 18:43 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

*disadvantaged Brady at 18:43 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Bernard was never accepted in the book. Even when he renounced his individuality while he arranged John's meetings, people put up with him Brady at 18:48 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

I thought Jessica's example was good. JUSTIN at 18:48 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

in order to get to John, they still despised him. Brady at 18:48 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

John was stronger in his morals but there was this anger that was in him about being in two societies where neither accept him, which led to Drew at 18:48 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Amanda makes a good point. JUSTIN at 18:48 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

technology has outdated books Rohan at 18:48 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

I liked how Jessica referenced books and control to Book of Eli. Kinnedy at 18:48 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

attack Lenina multiple times Drew at 18:49 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Bernard had a disadvantage from the beginning just because he was shorter...He was ostracized as a result. Brandon at 18:49 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Hemholtz was showing his indoctrination in that he was laughing at Shakespeare for the concept of parents and of love for 1 person, not many Brady at 18:50 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Bernard's background in hypnotic indoctrination methods also drove his rejection of society and the World-State poetic "truths" Brady at 18:53 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

as long as Bernard is on top he doesn't really care what kind of world he lives in as long as he is seen as important and not an oddity Drew at 18:54 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Great job, group 1! Post any comments or questions that you have? Mr. Paddock at 18:59 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

They're right. Knowledge is limited and they probably wouldn't know what to do with knowledge from books or other sources. Jessica at 19:01 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Comment on making profit... they were able to get ppl to do activities (go to country) through the nightly "talks" Taylor at 19:02 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Drew's comment on the difference in knowledge from savage reservation to the World State was good. Luke at 19:03 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

... thus they made profit in the country Taylor at 19:03 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

I agree with Brady - both societies don't accept what the other societies do because they're not used to that way of life. Jessica at 19:04 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Brady made a good point, john over reacted just because he was out of his realm, and didnt know what was goin on so it shocked him Michael M. at 19:04 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

good point from Brady about how people don't have a real meaning to each other in the World State... except their productivity. Taylor at 19:05 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

The difference in knowledge of how to interact with someone they like causes the conflict in the scene Brady was talking about, when John fi JakeR at 19:05 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Does meaning have to be completely individual? Could we have indoctrinated meaning or cultural meaning? Mr. Paddock at 19:06 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

I think that they do have cultural meaning in the World State, but they are easily interchanged. That makes them less important. Luke at 19:07 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Justin makes a good point. Today, people's moral values are changing to where people accept more than what people accepted years ago. Jessica at 19:07 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

I feel individuality has a big part in meaning because being individual is what makes us different. If were all the same, we don't need cert Amanda at 19:09 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Ya people do cheat and are promiscuous but i say that it is still not excepted, and that it may be part of our culture but its not accepted Michael M. at 19:09 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Have morals decreased or changed? (Maybe even depending on individual issues.) Mr. Paddock at 19:09 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Morals have decreased. We don't expect as much from each other anymore. It seems like its okay to fail:( Amanda at 19:10 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

I think that is a moral question Mr. Paddock and the answers chance depending on the person Michael M. at 19:11 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Morals just change. World State people's morals deal more with their jobs and castes and cleanliness like our deal with relationships MichaelC at 19:12 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

ca a child up for adoption, just saying nothing is forever if you dont want it to be Michael M. at 19:13 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

I agree with Michael. Morals can change depending on the person. Luke at 19:13 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Amanda's right. Today it's not as looked down upon to do to bad things like cheating Jessica at 19:13 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

I think morals have decreased, thus changed. I think we need more morals in the world today. Would lead to more trust in the world Taylor at 19:13 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Don't judge people until you know them. JakeR at 19:13 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Drew & brandon made a good point. people don't care as much what happens to people, the only care about the gossip. Jessica at 19:14 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Do people really judge that much or not, I would say Yes Michael M. at 19:14 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

to add to Kennedy, people come and go more often than they use to. JakeR at 19:15 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Michael, I do think people def judge that much... Taylor at 19:16 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

justin has a good point about ppl living to fulfill THEIR american dream Taylor at 19:17 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Justin made a good point about the american deram, nicely said Michael M. at 19:17 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

the "American Dream" doesn't include families as much anymore. Its more of individual success Amanda at 19:18 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

I think people's mistakes are just more obvious today than they used to be with all the new technology and media MichaelC at 19:18 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

would that mean that all existing marriages would seas Michael M. at 19:18 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

isn't there a rule that if you've lived with someone for 10 years? that its an understood marriage JakeR at 19:18 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

Michael is right, people are not doing more bad things, they are just getting caught more Luke at 19:19 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

spell check "cease" not seas Michael M. at 19:19 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

America was founded to be based on the Christian religion. If marriage was banned, it would go against the Bible and thus against everything Taylor at 19:19 PM, 31 Jan 2011 via web

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